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#254724 - 10/15/06 01:29 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: MysterD]
zahpodikus Offline
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Registered: 08/20/06
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Loc: WGC, Herts, England
SLOW SLOW SLOW
1. Average disc 'checking' takes 25 odd seconds, but around 1 in 4 times it takes 70 seconds, and around 1 in 6 start-ups give me enough time to make a cuppa and get back before failing. Strangely ejecting the disc solves this.:sleepey:

2. The location of the 'non-working' cancel button on the 'checking' dialog is over the 'Retry' button. Nice USE-case analysis work there, strangely in contrast to the rest of the product quality! Goes to show, the SF part was put on by the publisher.

I have posted this, simply because the 'game' loads faster than the 'checking' takes, making SF a non-brain part of the OOB experience that spoils an otherwise excellent game.
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#254725 - 10/16/06 05:15 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: Lynn]
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Registered: 10/16/06
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I came here hoping to find that I am finally allowed to play this game. StarForce will not invade my system. Is there any hope that this might still happen?


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#254726 - 10/16/06 07:29 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: au3]
Lady_Rain Offline
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Registered: 04/20/04
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not really.... even the patches were developed to handle starforce.... if Larian takes starforce out again (ignoring the legal issues relating to that), there will be new bugs in the game and a lot of new beta testing needed.

Unfortunately its was a choice that doesnt suite everyone's likes, but it is a choice non the less that was made in the almost distant past... i am sure that Larian wont make that same mistake again.


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#254727 - 11/18/06 02:16 AM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: Lady_Rain]
MysterD Offline
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Registered: 10/31/04
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Loc: Massachusetts, USA
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not really.... even the patches were developed to handle starforce.... if Larian takes starforce out again (ignoring the legal issues relating to that), there will be new bugs in the game and a lot of new beta testing needed.

Unfortunately its was a choice that doesnt suite everyone's likes, but it is a choice non the less that was made in the almost distant past... i am sure that Larian wont make that same mistake again.




I don't know about the legal issues regarding StarForce and all, but Egosoft recently released a patch for X3: Reunion just to remove the game from needing the CD period, even though the SF drivers will remain on your drive (unless you uninstall them yourself). The newest version of X3: Reunion is now 2.0.02, which also includes the free expansion content in it.

I should also note this -- EgoSoft will soon be releasing for retail stores X3: Reunion Version 2.0, which is the DVD Edition of X3: Reunion (w/ the free expansion content) without StarForce attached on the DVD.

More companies that decided to use that vicious SF protection should do what EgoSoft is doing w/ X3, in regards to dealing w/ SF Copyright Protection and all: eventually release a patch to remove the need of StarForce.


Edited by MysterD (11/18/06 02:19 AM)

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#254728 - 02/07/07 10:18 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: MysterD]
MysterD Offline
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Registered: 10/31/04
Posts: 542
Loc: Massachusetts, USA
Now things get quite interesting.

After the ordeal w/ it being mentioned thatStarForce games had trouble running on Win Vista Beta 2, there was a patch released for StarForce drivers so their games could work on Win Vista Beta.

So, now I wonder if any of the Larians and/or any gamers that have tried running on the new Win Vista (any of the retail editions) have got going after installing these drivers for Win Vista (Beta).


Edited by MysterD (02/07/07 10:20 PM)

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#254729 - 02/10/07 09:14 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: MysterD]
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i will try to load it early next week (tuesday 13/02/2007)... working nightshift till then, but i am sure i will get a chance to test it on tuesday.

i downloaded the patch now... at the same time i will run quicky through the game (just play certain saves) to see if the patch breaks anything.

if this works, it should also make bd playable on winxp - 64 bit edition... since that uses very similar driver handling as vista.


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#254730 - 02/11/07 07:43 PM Re: StarForce FAQ [Re: Lady_Rain]
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Working on it.... ran into a temporary dead-end... but hopefully there is a relatively easy work-around... just waiting for some feedback about possible work-arounds.

If we can get this working, i will post the installation guide and the step by step workaround for the small issue i ran into.

*holds thumbs*
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