Larian Studios Forums Divinity II The Dragon Knight Saga / Flames of Vengeance (English) Divinity II - Flames of Vengeance Another status update

No publisher/distributor has been announced for the US.
Only the European Publishers have been announced.

I'm wondering about different of Flame of Vengeance and The Dragon Knight Saga.

Flame of Vengeance releases before The Dragon Knight Saga, so Flame of Vengeance doesn't have new engine for Ego Draconis? (Only new engine Flame of Vengeance part.)

Well, I think it has.

Saga is only kind of a "wrap up" for me.

I though the English version of FoV and DKS were both set for an October release? The German FoV will be released mid August.

FoV does include engine updates, bug fixes, etc for D2:ED. DKS changes actual content of the D2:ED section of the game (so far the flying fortresses seem to be the biggest difference announced). DKS may include more updates or texture changes, etc, than are included with FoV, but if so it has not been mention to what extent.

I see, if DKS changes D2:ED content then I guess I'll wait for DKS.

Might as well, it is why I didn't install it yet on my computer. I'll wait for the FOV and play threw it from start to end to end. I'm sure this will be awesome.

I'd suggest you play threw the Demo to get an idea what the game will look like. Just to mess around a bit. It will feel like you played a game that is in Beta compared to the FOV release. The controls will be on thing improved from that demo edition.

I doubt so. I know FOV and Divinity 2, and both are playing well - each one on its own.

To say one of both is "playing like a beta" is like saying a Volkswagen is like a beta compared to an BMW.

Which is unfair, in my eyes.

Usually the beta games I've played ended up getting good polishing overs before final release. There has been a lot of upgrades since I've played D2 the way it is.

You are right though, I did feel satisfied with D2 as it was. Felt like a good movie that will have a good sequel.

Wait is there a patch or DLC to add the extra content from DKS without buying it or does it only come with the DKS package?

There will be a patch for D2:ED that includes bug fixes and engine updates, etc. On the PC there will be a separate release of the add-on and DKS (the combined remastered D2:ED and addon); on Xbox there will just be the DKS release. The remastered parts of DKS (changes to the flying fortresses probably being the biggest change mentioned) will presumably only be part of DKS.

Damn I was hoping there might be a DLC for the 360 ... Ehh shit happens. I may just have to buy DKS if it turns out there are some major changes (besides what we already know).

Larian originally intended to release FoV as DLC on the Xbox, but it ended up being too large for that.

Micro$oft has the three L's
Limitations
Licenses
Lumps of cash

Thus why I won't own an X-box

I think the term "beta games" ist just another step inte generall degrading development studios,
who normally aren't responsible for delivering the games in such a bad state, but instead the publishers are, due to their pressure(s) to release a game to certain dates (which, cynically put, often run parallel to report dates to shareholders).

In case of Divinity 1 for example rumor says that CDV Germany just didn't give them any money anymore. "Publish or perish" at its most literal state.

In my perception, the gamers who rant about the bad state of games are imho too often looking away from the responsibility (or guilt, in the case of games shipping in a bad state) of the publishers.

Instead, the same gamers fire their cannons of hatred against the developers,
meanwhile the developers are nowadays too often squeezed among hammer & anvil.

Publishers are imho often not regarded as their should compared to their influence & might & money.

i disagree largly limitation wize iv never encounterd any and of couse it would be soooooo evil of them to charge you $200 for an xbox and $40 a year if you cant aford that i sugest you sell some stuff to keep up to the world.

First off, what's up there, old friend? Hope all is well with you.

Anyway, October is indeed looking insane. I am actually expecting a repeat of last year with a bunch of incoming delays. If not, then I'll just have to put some games off for awhile. Two Worlds II, Arcania: Gothic 4, Fable III and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow are all insta-buys for me. While the Dragon Knight Saga is still a must buy, it may have to wait a month or so because of all the other new titles. Too bad they could not nail down September. That would work great for me.

Howdy there!

All the titles you just mentioned, and we also have Enslaved, Vanquish, True Crime: Hong Kong, etc.

But like you, Iron, I'm also expecting a repeat of last year and previous years before it. I welcome delays when there is so much, but I also get slightly mad when a developer/publisher keeps delaying and can't nail down a firm release date. If you're not certain, don't nail a release date to it.

Exactly, man. I prefer the, "when it is done, it's done" approach. It seems like every year all of the high profile and even lower profile releases get place holder dates all slammed together in October. Then lo and behold, here come the delays. Regardless, I am going to be swamped as hell. Just wish I had some definite dates.

Until I've been a customer for Larian, and they explained the whole deal about how publishers work. I've never realized how hard it is for a new company. Also didn't realize how much more they wanted in DD. Thing is the game would have probably become too large.

The only thing I didn't like about DD was the final level seemed generic and was getting bored with it. It really had no structure, just felt like a rat maze. Was hoping it be as interesting as the sewers were. Other then that, I don't know how they could have made it any better and will most likely be playing it from start to finish again within the next year... there are maybe five or six games total that I enjoy as much as DD. Only one other is an RPG and that is Zelda LttP.

On this moment the only other game, beside of The Dragon Knight Saga, I've an eye on is Gothic IV.
But first reading what people say about that game on fora and within Christmastime I buy myself The Dragon Knight Saga for Xbox and after that begin to play again in Farglow and just stop if I end Flames of Vengeance .

But I can understand many gamers going crazy about gamesrelaeses that comes all together in october !!
Just to say : keep up the "best game(s)"